iframe - Why won't this JavaScript (using document.open and document.write) work in Internet Explorer or Opera?

Question

I desperately need some help on this one.

I've created a <script> that closely parallels, and reproduces the problem of, another more complex <script> that I've written elsewhere.

Here's what it does:

• creates an <iframe> and inserts in into a <div> on the page
• creates and appends a document to that <iframe>, which contains a <script> that defines a few functions (including a callback function and a function that loads an external <script> using AJAX)
• the latter external script is just a call to the callback function, which calls a function that creates a document and appends it to the <iframe> it's in; this should effectively overwrite the <script>

The three files involved are:

• http://troy.onespot.com/static/document_write/index.html (the main page)
• http://troy.onespot.com/static/document_write/main.js (the first <script> that's loaded)
• http://troy.onespot.com/static/document_write/jsonp.js (the <script> loaded by jQuery's $.ajax() method)

This all works in Firefox, Safari, and Chrome. Where it breaks down is in Internet Explorer and Opera. What happens is that the render() function in main.js executes, and all three alerts are fired, but the document in the <iframe> is not overwritten. I can't tell what document is being created or written to, or if one is at all.

If I add debug code (like console.log(document)) in the beginning of the render() function, the working browsers seem to get a handle on the existing <iframe> document and list the properties included below. Internet Explorer also appears to find a document of some sort. I just can't tell why it's not letting me overwrite it.

Could it be an issue of scope? Maybe I'm using the document.write(), document.open() or document.close() methods improperly, and Firefox and a few other browsers are just letting me get away with it?

One possible clue: if I take the guts of the render() function out (i.e., just put them after load() in main.js), this works fine. That suggests to me that it's not how I'm using document.open(), etc., but that somehow by the time that the callback() function is executed, the document object is not available, or has gone out of scope, or something like that.

This has me totally stumped, and it's for a very important project with an impending deadline. I'm not above a hack or workaround if it gets me out of this jam. Any help or insight would be EXTREMELY appreciated!

console.log()'s listing of the document properties:

ATTRIBUTE_NODE: 2
CDATA_SECTION_NODE: 4
COMMENT_NODE: 8
DOCUMENT_FRAGMENT_NODE: 11
DOCUMENT_NODE: 9
DOCUMENT_POSITION_CONTAINED_BY: 16
DOCUMENT_POSITION_CONTAINS: 8
DOCUMENT_POSITION_DISCONNECTED: 1
DOCUMENT_POSITION_FOLLOWING: 4
DOCUMENT_POSITION_IMPLEMENTATION_SPECIFIC: 32
DOCUMENT_POSITION_PRECEDING: 2
DOCUMENT_TYPE_NODE: 10
ELEMENT_NODE: 1
ENTITY_NODE: 6
ENTITY_REFERENCE_NODE: 5
NOTATION_NODE: 12
PROCESSING_INSTRUCTION_NODE: 7
TEXT_NODE: 3
URL: "http://localhost/projects/test/ajax_loader/document_write/index.html"
activeElement: HTMLBodyElement
addEventListener: function addEventListener() {
adoptNode: function adoptNode() {
alinkColor: ""
all: HTMLCollection
anchors: HTMLCollection
appendChild: function appendChild() {
applets: HTMLCollection
attributes: null
baseURI: "http://localhost/projects/test/ajax_loader/document_write/index.html"
bgColor: ""
body: HTMLBodyElement
captureEvents: function captureEvents() {
characterSet: "UTF-8"
charset: "UTF-8"
childNodes: NodeList
clear: function clear() {
cloneNode: function cloneNode() {
close: function close() {
compareDocumentPosition: function compareDocumentPosition() {
compatMode: "BackCompat"
cookie: "__gads=ID=62bb88ab20ac9451:T=1256683145:S=ALNI_Mbso-nFjAvRzYhCSwhiuaDh84G8CA"
createAttribute: function createAttribute() {
createAttributeNS: function createAttributeNS() {
createCDATASection: function createCDATASection() {
createComment: function createComment() {
createDocumentFragment: function createDocumentFragment() {
createElement: function createElement() {
createElementNS: function createElementNS() {
createEntityReference: function createEntityReference() {
createEvent: function createEvent() {
createExpression: function createExpression() {
createNSResolver: function createNSResolver() {
createNodeIterator: function createNodeIterator() {
createProcessingInstruction: function createProcessingInstruction() {
createRange: function createRange() {
createTextNode: function createTextNode() {
createTreeWalker: function createTreeWalker() {
defaultCharset: "iso-8859-1"
defaultView: DOMWindow
designMode: "off"
dir: ""
dispatchEvent: function dispatchEvent() {
doctype: null
documentElement: HTMLHtmlElement
documentURI: "http://localhost/projects/test/ajax_loader/document_write/index.html"
domain: "localhost"
elementFromPoint: function elementFromPoint() {
embeds: HTMLCollection
evaluate: function evaluate() {
execCommand: function execCommand() {
fgColor: ""
firstChild: HTMLHtmlElement
forms: HTMLCollection
getCSSCanvasContext: function getCSSCanvasContext() {
getElementById: function getElementById() {
getElementsByClassName: function getElementsByClassName() {
getElementsByName: function getElementsByName() {
getElementsByTagName: function getElementsByTagName() {
getElementsByTagNameNS: function getElementsByTagNameNS() {
getOverrideStyle: function getOverrideStyle() {
getSelection: function getSelection() {
hasAttributes: function hasAttributes() {
hasChildNodes: function hasChildNodes() {
hasFocus: function hasFocus() {
height: 150
images: HTMLCollection
implementation: DOMImplementation
importNode: function importNode() {
inputEncoding: "UTF-8"
insertBefore: function insertBefore() {
isDefaultNamespace: function isDefaultNamespace() {
isEqualNode: function isEqualNode() {
isSameNode: function isSameNode() {
isSupported: function isSupported() {
jQuery1258269389622: 2
lastChild: HTMLHtmlElement
lastModified: ""
linkColor: ""
links: HTMLCollection
localName: null
location: Location
lookupNamespaceURI: function lookupNamespaceURI() {
lookupPrefix: function lookupPrefix() {
namespaceURI: null
nextSibling: null
nodeName: "#document"
nodeType: 9
nodeValue: null
normalize: function normalize() {
open: function open() {
ownerDocument: null
parentElement: null
parentNode: null
plugins: HTMLCollection
preferredStylesheetSet: null
prefix: null
previousSibling: null
queryCommandEnabled: function queryCommandEnabled() {
queryCommandIndeterm: function queryCommandIndeterm() {
queryCommandState: function queryCommandState() {
queryCommandSupported: function queryCommandSupported() {
queryCommandValue: function queryCommandValue() {
querySelector: function querySelector() {
querySelectorAll: function querySelectorAll() {
readyState: "complete"
referrer: "http://localhost/projects/test/ajax_loader/document_write/index.html"
releaseEvents: function releaseEvents() {
removeChild: function removeChild() {
removeEventListener: function removeEventListener() {
replaceChild: function replaceChild() {
scripts: HTMLCollection
selectedStylesheetSet: null
styleSheets: StyleSheetList
textContent: null
title: " Page"
vlinkColor: ""
width: 300
write: function write() {
writeln: function writeln() {
xmlEncoding: null
xmlStandalone: false
xmlVersion: null

Answer 1

if I take the guts of the render() function out (i.e., just put them after load() in main.js), this works fine.

Doesn't for me in IE8. If I lose the AJAX call completely and just call render() in main.js, I get the same result. In fact even if I replace the whole of main.js with just:

document.write('hello!');

with or without opening the document, the hello never appears!

If I put any timeout (even 0) on the call to render in main.js, it works. The timeout on the parent document, on the other hand, doesn't seem to be doing anything.

This extreme weirdness is caused by jQuery using a temporarily-inserted <script> tag to execute the code returned by in jsonp.js. If you simply call eval on the return value instead of having jQuery execute it, it works fine.

A related problem I found narrowing down the hello example is demonstrated by index.html:

<body>
<iframe name="foo"></iframe>
<script>
    var idoc= frames['foo'].document;
    idoc.open();
    idoc.write('<body><script src="main.js"></script>');
    idoc.close();
</script>

with main.js containing:

document.write('foo');

There is no foo written. (An inline script, on the other hand, was fine.)

If the idoc.close was omitted, it worked. If an additional idoc.write('bar') was added, the bar was written before foo in IE only. If I added both bar and the close call, IE crashed.

So to summarise, there are deep problems using document.write from inside a document that was itself written by document.write! Try to avoid it if at all possible. document.open can be a useful way to populate an iframe from a parent document, but you shouldn't really be needing it inside the child document, where you can use DOM methods on yourself.